My Turn, Watkins Glen part 4??

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

My Turn, Watkins Glen part 4??

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

nice shots.. cant ait til next time.. the 3 across at the gas station looked nice needed a 5th gen at the empty pump thou lol

mntecrloss47 · Senior Member

Awesome pics!!!

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

missed taking shot when i tried to intise a race with dave when i raced up to his left side on way back... just shortly before we ran into the law lol

he kept telling me at burger king how fast the v6 was.. but i guess he didnt wanna prove it lol

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 30th of April 2012 06:25:45 PM

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

I don't street race, And quite frankly, I don't associate much with those who do. Plus with the amount of cops we saw, it wasn't worth it. If we were on a drag strip, it would be another story.

I probably won't beat you, But it's quick enough to keep up.

Donutboy97 · Moderator-Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

you know I saw you pull out and all I could think of was "oh oh, that will cost ya an extra $.45 at the pump" lol Actually you can blame me for Dave not racing.... I bet him $50 that I could use less gas than him.... we were having a "fuel mileage" race

-- Edited by Donutboy97 on Wednesday 2nd of May 2012 09:59:29 PM

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

wasnt biggy.. just wanted to see how quick those could get up and move thats all nothng like a "race race" just wanted to see how quick those are while moving... u know how quick she is on a drag strip? theres one ner my house i visited one day with my 07.. read online that the 5.3 can do high 13 low 14's.. the guy i was talking to at the drag strip about what kinda rules and clothing and what bracket i would fall under he asked me what size i got i told him 5.3 and he was wide eyed and shocked.. i guess gm really snuck this 5.3 out cause anytime i showed my 07 or this 06 noone ever knew it had a v8 in them.. i was shocked myself when i was checking the chevy website back in 07 and wham there she was with class leading engine 5.3 v8 and blah blah blah.. good i always had a chevy and always look on their websites otherwise woulda never knew.. im sure had they made more of a advertisement in 06 sales woulda kept her around longer than 2 yrs cause it was few yrs after before camaro finnally came out with no 2 door sports car besides the vette for like 2 or 3 yrs.. ford was happy selling mustangs a dime a dozen during that time.... just shame they finnaly toss a v8 back in and just as quick she was gone for sale floor poof no party nothing just a closed the door and out u go see yea..

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

lololol... it probally did too lol...
how could u use less gas than him with ur 80's gas hog( even thou wasnt that the decade where government made big fuss about gas mileage thats why the 80's "sports" car was basically a civic while having a v8 sticker under the hood.. u said i think like low to mid teens for gas mileage didnt u.... what u think best use mine as weekly driver then get urs and toy with that instead of screwing up a front wheel drive v8 like mine?.. had it not been the fact couldnt buy my 07 when lease was up therefore makingm e wanting to get another i woulda loved to had decided on a mid 80s ss instead.. specially since i see really mint looking ones from 5k to 10k for one (specially since i tossed 5k on down payment for this 06)

Montess2k · Administrator- Comic Relief

Totally awesome pics Dave!!! Looks like an awesome experience,

so I take it they take one group of models (ie. Corvettes) and make them go around in a group then the next set of models...can you mix and match...so say for instance I bring my Grand Am Next year can I go around with you guys in the monte or do I have to be in the monte?.

Hope4 no worries, if we ever get together I'll be happy to see what a lil v6 can do! :)

Joe

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

Tim, we have already proven the 4th gens can get over 18 MPG when were not screwing around, and I can get as low as 16 MPG in the 6th gen when screwing around. I did figure it out for that trip. I averaged 25 MPG over the whole trip of 276 miles.

Jon, Working on the 4th gens is a lot easier and cheaper. The 6th gens don't have any cheap modifications.

Joe, We just all came in together and went through the main staging lanes. If we have a group of 20 or more, then they have separate staging lanes for large groups. But even if we have that large of a group, it doesn't matter, we saw a Mustang with the Corvettes and a Porche with the Camaros.

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

twomanymontes wrote:
Tim, we have already proven the 4th gens can get over 18 MPG when were not screwing around, and I can get as low as 16 MPG in the 6th gen when screwing around. I did figure it out for that trip. I averaged 25 MPG over the whole trip of 276 miles.
-wow really thats cool didnt know that and i do agree about how low u can with the 5.3 lol

Jon, Working on the 4th gens is a lot easier and cheaper. The 6th gens don't have any cheap modifications.
-so u would agree then to besides exhaust and proformance chip and cold air intake that be good enough ... then get my 4th and make her the true bad ass instead.. but if u modify a 4th gen instead keeping her stock, would u have regrets cause well shes really not a monte anymore shes just a shell with mods?

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:29 PM

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:48 PM

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

Montess2k wrote:
Totally awesome pics Dave!!! Looks like an awesome experience,

so I take it they take one group of models (ie. Corvettes) and make them go around in a group then the next set of models...can you mix and match...so say for instance I bring my Grand Am Next year can I go around with you guys in the monte or do I have to be in the monte?.

Hope4 no worries, if we ever get together I'll be happy to see what a lil v6 can do! :)

Joe
lol coool

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

It doesn't matter, A monte will always be a monte in whatever form it becomes.

Donutboy97 · Moderator-Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

hope4anarchy99 wrote:

twomanymontes wrote:
Tim, we have already proven the 4th gens can get over 18 MPG when were not screwing around, and I can get as low as 16 MPG in the 6th gen when screwing around. I did figure it out for that trip. I averaged 25 MPG over the whole trip of 276 miles.
-wow really thats cool didnt know that and i do agree about how low u can with the 5.3 lol

Jon, Working on the 4th gens is a lot easier and cheaper. The 6th gens don't have any cheap modifications.
-so u would agree then to besides exhaust and proformance chip and cold air intake that be good enough ... then get my 4th and make her the true bad ass instead.. but if u modify a 4th gen instead keeping her stock, would u have regrets cause well shes really not a monte anymore shes just a shell with mods?

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:29 PM

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:48 PM

I have mods... you don;t see me frownin'

Montess2k · Administrator- Comic Relief

You can mod a car to look good and go fast....the whole point of being in the hobby is to make the car uniquely yours, if you go down aisle after aisle of stock looking cars then once you've seen one you've seen them all, but if they all look different weather it's different engines, different body features, different interiors, or different systems, then you have something to look at in each car...

Every car is a work of art, you start with a blank canvas, stock, and change it to the way you want it. Making it unique doesn't make it a non monte it makes it YOUR monte.

Joe

-- Edited by Montess2k on Thursday 10th of May 2012 10:29:40 PM

mattthias · Moderator- Monte Hunters Camera Crew

Just a shell with mods? Because you modded it and its a 4th generation Monte Carlo? Please go buy a Mustang!

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

Donutboy97 wrote:
hope4anarchy99 wrote:

twomanymontes wrote:
Tim, we have already proven the 4th gens can get over 18 MPG when were not screwing around, and I can get as low as 16 MPG in the 6th gen when screwing around. I did figure it out for that trip. I averaged 25 MPG over the whole trip of 276 miles.
-wow really thats cool didnt know that and i do agree about how low u can with the 5.3 lol

Jon, Working on the 4th gens is a lot easier and cheaper. The 6th gens don't have any cheap modifications.
-so u would agree then to besides exhaust and proformance chip and cold air intake that be good enough ... then get my 4th and make her the true bad ass instead.. but if u modify a 4th gen instead keeping her stock, would u have regrets cause well shes really not a monte anymore shes just a shell with mods?

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:29 PM

-- Edited by hope4anarchy99 on Monday 7th of May 2012 08:54:48 PM

I have mods... you don;t see me frownin'

which one has the mods? ur 4th gen in pic?..
-- my thing is when u go to a car night somewhere and u walk around and u see cars that are all nice and factory new inside and out and stock for me i get that "wow" shes pretty, shes been taken care of.. but sometimes when u see a extreme makeover on a car it kinda takes the wowness away, now all ur looking at is the engine and how big and how much horse ect ect.. to the point u completly forget what kind of car ur even looking at... now granted if ur gonna mod a car to race her thats one thing now its not about looks its about how fast can u go.. so i guess it basically comes down to is the car gonna be a track car or a weekend cruise /show car

Donutboy97 · Moderator-Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

both

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

Donutboy97 wrote:
both

so ur 88 been mod.. she looks all stock on outside, including the wheels.. she a sleeper 4th gen lol?

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

Montess2k wrote:
You can mod a car to look good and go fast....the whole point of being in the hobby is to make the car uniquely yours, if you go down aisle after aisle of stock looking cars then once you've seen one you've seen them all, but if they all look different weather it's different engines, different body features, different interiors, or different systems, then you have something to look at in each car...

Every car is a work of art, you start with a blank canvas, stock, and change it to the way you want it. Making it unique doesn't make it a non monte it makes it YOUR monte.

Joe

-- Edited by Montess2k on Thursday 10th of May 2012 10:29:40 PM
i agree with u, 2 twin cars side by side one stock one mod u'll have ur likes about each and be totally different veiws on it.. ull look at a car thats over 25 yrs old and see her stock and go niceee shes been loved..like when i saw a 4th gen black ls monte at a show and she looked so pretty being stock and being a LS not a SS she had her own "wow" factor cause of her condition.. but same time ull see a 25 yr old car and ull see the mods and go yea he has fun with this one while that other one is more "show".. thats why i would ponder what i would do when i get a 4th gen..
ill love her stock and restore her to her factory condition but same time would love to have her track ready too.. pop in one engine one day other engine next

knightfan26917 · Guru

*raises eyebrow sharply*

Tim's 4th gen Ch#$r%*et Monte Carlo looks stock? How does a dark green 4th gen MCSS look stock? That dark green is NOT a factory color.

And, what's this about "just a shell with mods"?

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hope4anarchy99 · Guru

the 88 is green ? looks dark(black to me) but im color blind so..

Donutboy97 · Moderator-Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

hope4anarchy99 wrote:

the 88 is green ? looks dark(black to me) but im color blind so..

Don't worry, you aren't the first person I've fooled... and you won't be the last

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

All three of our Montes are modified, the 4th gens are heavily modified. and the 6th gen has the suspension and brakes modified, plus a few engine tweeks.

Modified or stock, they are still Montes and fun to own and drive.

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

Donutboy97 wrote:
hope4anarchy99 wrote:

the 88 is green ? looks dark(black to me) but im color blind so..

lol
hey i told u at the glenn i loved urs alot so with what ever "mod" got.. its got stock rims and stock look to me it looks very nice as a 1988 monte carlo being almost 25 yrs old.. theres something to be said about cars that been minor mods to over done.. to me i love walking around car shows and seeing a car that for the most part if u didint know much about what size engine it is surposed to have i love seeing cars that look stock cause to me looks like the owner has the car cause he likes that model car..
when u see cars thatcould be condidered over mod then sometimes u wonder did they just get that car just to mod it and not because of the model of car..
yes, i do like seeing cars with huge blowers and hood scoops and fat rear tires, but to me at least now all i see is a racer or track car, not actually loooking at the car anymore, more like im just going neat how fast it go, so to me theres a difference to seeing a much older car all kept up like she just left dealer floor, compared to seeing a engine ..
yes, both are great to look at, i do like seeing muscle cars that been blown up, but same time theres just something about seeing a 53 corvette compared to seeing a 53 vette with a blower.. yea both bad ass but there is that difference still..

Don't worry, you aren't the first person I've fooled... and you won't be the last

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

twomanymontes wrote:
All three of our Montes are modified, the 4th gens are heavily modified. and the 6th gen has the suspension and brakes modified, plus a few engine tweeks.

Modified or stock, they are still Montes and fun to own and drive.

the one u had at the glenn wasnt "over done".. all im saying is to me sometimes its seeing a older model car, looking like she did when she pulled out the dealership compared to one thats been transformed.. i did say i loved how ur son's car came out, but for me when i was a little kid in the 80's i fell in love with the 4th gen as it was, so to me i would love having one like Tims.. again i do love how ur son's came out both have there own "sweet" factor.. i just love how the 4th gen looked as it was.. not engine tweeks and exhaust and minor stuff like that to me doesnt "change" the appareance of the car so therefore it doesnt loose its factory look.. just when ive seen 06/07's with low profile 22's on them to me its more or less taking away what the car looks like to now just a 2 door car with over priced wheels that u cant even drive normally with..

twomanymontes · Moderator - Monte Hunter Lead Investigator

If it was originally a rare car, then it's value is in being all stock. But if it's something that a million were made, then it's just like every other car on the road.

For instance, An all original 86 Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe is rare being only 200 were made. On the flip side an 86 Monte SS notchback were made by the thousands. The rare care should by all rights stay original. Since there were thousands of the notchbacks made, why leave it just like every other one? Make it yours.

I like my cars to be "the way the factory should have made it" Lowered, better handling, more power and sound. And a little billet accents through out.

To each his own, You like stock, then leave it stock. You like power, then modify it. It can't get any simplier than that.

hope4anarchy99 · Guru

i like the stock looks, but do like to see how much power u can get out of her before u gotta do a complete rebuild/swap...
cause if im next to a guy i wanna know can i beat him stock to stock if i cant stock to stock then ill be happy knowing he had the extra cash to get his higher priced car..
but to loose to a guy who has super tweaked his motor that i dont even have a chance but same time that guy wants to act like he doesnt have anything under his hood just to blow me away .. that i hate.. u wanna go head to head then lets do it knowing whos got what.. i dont mind my 06 ss cant beat a '12 model, but i wanna know what she can do against her competition from her age, like the 06,07 mustang GT would be fair battle not the new GT of today lol... how i see it lets all get 10k and do whatver we want to our engines and then see whos better.. me and my co-worker today heard a mustang (didnt know yr they all look same for past 10 yrs) going down the street whle we where working and he was just coasting by about to pull into his driveway few houses up the street and she had very nice rumble, my coworker jokes and says thats a nice mustang, i was like eh, i could toss a aftermarket exhaust and sound the same..
so to me i got nothng wrong with modifying, but dont act like ur "crap" is the best, when u let me do the same thing u done to urs and then lets see whos better.. for me im a fair guy if i know im faster than u i wont bother making u look bad.. so please if urs (not u personally just in general) is faster than mine for what ever reason lets not get into a "chicken" fight when u know u got the upper hand.. to me thats just showing off..
.. now all that said how can u find out what ur engine is able to max out in with power with of course keeping the car from breaking aprt same time.. like my 5.3 or when i someday get a 4th gen if i keep a stock motor in her being a v8 of the 80's with same horsepower my 04 cavalier had, lol, are those 4th gen motors able to be rebuilt the way they shoulda been made without the regards of gas mileage like they where all trying to control.. and with my 5.3 what can she safely put out, granted shes front wheel drive, so i dont know how much they will limit her but isnt a 5.3 bigger than a 5.0 ?